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    Quote Originally Posted by RoG Season RV View Post
    This is the best summary of the game I've seen. Also the reason I don't get as excited for games the last few years. So many developers have begun to get in to the push the game out and we'll patch it later routine. I'm sure it has a lot to do with the publishers as well.
    One of the old Cohesive members made the comparison and I had a holy shit moment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RoG Seraph View Post
    That is to be expected from a newly released game. ESO had the exact same problem. The Daggerfall intro level had a mission boss that was unkillable and therefore you could not progress any further into the game.

    After people reported the bug, it was fixed and everyone went about their business.

    I just think it is stupid for people asking for Bethesda's head on a pike after this short of time being released.
    That is so backwards dude. Newly released games should be finished products with enough content to match its price. This includes adequate testing and bug fixing that actually makes the game playable. It's a scam through and through. Say they do end up fixing all of the problems in the game after a year of being released. It doesn't excuse the fact that the game was broken for the first year of release when people paid full price expecting a full quality game.

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    That's all games. Literally all. Games will never be perfect on release and it is ignorant to expect them to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoG Seraph View Post
    That's all games. Literally all. Games will never be perfect on release and it is ignorant to expect them to be.
    I never said anything about perfect.

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    "Newly released games should be finished products with enough content to match its price. This includes adequate testing and bug fixing that actually makes the game playable."

    My comprehension must be off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopkins View Post
    That is so backwards dude. Newly released games should be finished products with enough content to match its price. This includes adequate testing and bug fixing that actually makes the game playable. It's a scam through and through. Say they do end up fixing all of the problems in the game after a year of being released. It doesn't excuse the fact that the game was broken for the first year of release when people paid full price expecting a full quality game.
    If I could like this post I 100% would. For some reason bethesda gets this leeway with the bugs in their game and I just don't understand why. There are bugs in Fo76 that were in Fallout 4 that were fixed by modders and bethesda still didn't fix it for 76. This game and all the drama that has been associated with it is 100% making me skeptical of every Bethesda game going forward and I didn't even purchase the game lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoG Seraph View Post
    "Newly released games should be finished products with enough content to match its price. This includes adequate testing and bug fixing that actually makes the game playable."

    My comprehension must be off.
    In the past this is how games were made. Patching didn't used to be an option and couldn't be used as a crutch. Alphas and Betas used to mean something more then a glorified demo of the game. They were part of that testing and bug fixing phase. Developers couldn't have a mentality of we'll fix it later because it could mean at it's worst the shuttering of a studio. People shouldn't be alright with something being broken beyond being able to be played and/or enjoyed at launch because "hey they'll patch it later. That's what led to these types of issues to begin with.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VulgarBear View Post
    In the past this is how games were made. Patching didn't used to be an option and couldn't be used as a crutch.
    And most of those games are STILL broken af and have game breaking glitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoG Seraph View Post
    And most of those games are STILL broken af and have game breaking glitches.
    Actually no most of them aren't, I have hundreds of games going back to the Atari days and most play how they should. Most of the glitches known today are either because they were infamous and were actually game breaking or because speed runners got their hands on a title. If Fallout 76 wasn't a Bethesda title it very well could of ruined a developer. That isn't even counting the InfoSec issues and the bag issue that also coincide with the game. At the heart of it Fallout 76 is chalk full of bad game design and horrible PR decisions that shouldn't be defended or overlooked. For your $60 you get a lackluster game that honestly could of been better if they wouldn't of rushed it out the door.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RoG Seraph View Post
    "Newly released games should be finished products with enough content to match its price. This includes adequate testing and bug fixing that actually makes the game playable."

    My comprehension must be off.
    It must be, cause nowhere in that sentence do i say perfect. I said playable, and that could mean far from perfect.

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